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Old 11-02-2004, 10:01 PM   #1
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Question Blind Search Q

Just a basic question here from me please - just curious how a blind search receiver searches for signals without having to put in any details...does it only search the 1 bird or more and does it search both H & V?

Oh and curious, are they worth having?

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Old 11-02-2004, 11:14 PM   #2
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I reckon their a great little box for the money. Sure they have a few probs, but these are being addressed.
There are a number of scanning options. Blind search searches between set parametres or ones that you set. Both H and V if required.
If you are sure you have all transponders entrered then a sat search is a lot quicker. Or you can search just one TP.
No they dont go from bird to bird searching. Mine is hooked up via diseqc to a 90 on a motek. I tell the dish where to go, say NSS6 and search it, then back to say B3 and search it. I have got dedicated search channels set up so it doesnt get rid of anything (say a feed) that is currently switched off. I also loop out of the powtek into another box where i enter the freqs in manually.
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Old 12-02-2004, 12:32 AM   #3
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are they worth having?
You bet! Otherwise you have to rely on info from someone else for frequencies etc. They are not expensive and make a great second box.
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Old 12-02-2004, 12:39 AM   #4
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Thank you very much and exactly the answers I was looking for, ta..

1 more if I may please - again sorry if it's dumbo question but do they come with imbedded cam or slots or is it only for FTA?
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Old 12-02-2004, 03:49 AM   #5
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Whats a cam slot??
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Old 12-02-2004, 03:58 AM   #6
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Powtek's don't have cam slots or any embedded CAS. They are just a FTA receiver. I use mine for my motorized C band dish because it supports diseqc 1.2 so it powers my vbox to move the big dish. It's great being able to scan a satellite in around 15 Minutes without having to enter all the frequencies manually.


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Old 12-02-2004, 04:58 AM   #7
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Thank you Vetrun...sounds like a good prospect me finks..ta..
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Old 12-02-2004, 11:10 AM   #8
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Vetrun- I can't understand this figure of 15 minutes quoted to blind scan a satellite. For fun I just scanned ( Powtek ) on Asiasat3 albeit with a smaller dish than yours and found 36 tps and 174 services in 7 minutes. A scan of C1 took 6 minutes and found 21 tps and 178 services. This seems to be less than 15 minutes. One thing I found today was that the Powtek does not find on Asiasat3 3706H 6000 Ks/s ' Channel News Asia but the equally cheap Topfield 3200 does. Powtek won't even find this in manual search mode - weird. Powtek will also not find SAB TV on 3743V 3300 unless 'forced' to. i.e. will not find this in blind search mode even though this service has 80%Q when forced. ??? They are a handy little box these Powteks but don't find everything !
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Old 12-02-2004, 11:27 AM   #9
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My figure of 15 minutes was on say B1, when you go into blind search mode, dont adjust any parameters, and hit start.... ie 11700 to 12750,2000 to 45k,hor & ver......
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Old 12-02-2004, 11:30 AM   #10
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The 15 minutes is just a guess, not exact

It will probably miss something now and again but when I used to scan with my old nokia it would still miss the odd channel now and again.

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Old 12-02-2004, 12:08 PM   #11
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This is now explained. I have become accustomed to adjusting the parameters in blind scan mode to obtain faster results whilst BLINDLY detecting the actual satellite I am looking at after manually adjusting the magic UGLY polar mount thing. Have learned much in last few months and appreciate help from all quarters. Thanks fellas !
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Old 13-02-2004, 03:48 AM   #12
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What I Have found for the powtek is that after a blind search you do a sat search on transponders found and it corrects errors and finds some off the missing channels, but not Imparja.

Also for Measat 2 it won't find anything but if you adjust the symbol rate to close to the 41500 it will find A-Sky-Net channels
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Old 13-02-2004, 10:06 AM   #13
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That's odd. My Powtek finds A-SkyNet just fine on a blind scan of Measat2.
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Old 15-02-2004, 02:22 PM   #14
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I think i've asked this question before here in Vetrun,but i've lost the reply/answer so please forgive me,& here it is.......What is the better blindsearch reciever the Powtec or the Innovia ??? I know they are both made in the same factory,and use the same firmwear? But does one have more features than the other,or better recieving abilities/sensitivity? Better warranty/after sales service & support? Price? Which is BEST?
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Old 15-02-2004, 02:41 PM   #15
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I'm fairly sure they are exactly the same hardware and firmware so it doesn't really matter which one you buy. As for after sales service the site sponser (www.adigitalife.com) is excellent to deal with and they sell the powtek. I don't know of anywhere else that sells the powtek or innova so I can't comment on them.

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