Scientific Atlanta powerVu

[john43]

Hi all,

I have an Atlanta D9234 and try using it in Europe
It wil see some fta sat and thats it. No hotbird 6deg. powervu transmitting at all
Can someone tell me more about the atlanta.
possible a owner / user with knowledge how to program it and not loosing all the channels each time its disconnected from the current 220 v here.

sorry for the bad grammatic in English
mail me pls


John

[bassett]

The Scientific Atlanta Powervu receiver series D9223 and D9234
are intended for Pay or Cable providers, Where a rack of these receivers can supply channels for pay services,, The main problem is that each receiver is seperatly authorised for use by the parent company, and on exchange or sale of the receiver the encription
autherisition is cancelled.

What this means in effect is that, there really only usable , by people with the correct authorisation.. and as they only do PowerVu, there really not a lot of use to the hobbiest, Also to add to the confusion , Full PowerVu signals are restricted to the Panamsat series of satellites. Which restricts it even more..
There is a form of powerVu that can be received on a standard DVB receiver, But stuff like the ESPN bouquay [4020 H 26466 7/8] is out of reachto just about everyone except Pay providers and Kerry PackerThis also includes the Discovery series, and the Golf channels.

Also to my knowladge the PowerVu system of encription has never been compromissed

AS for obtaining the service in Europe, They also work on a C-band frequancy, which narrows it down even further, and I am unsure if any PowerVu is broadcast on a Ku satellite, anywhere.
I can find no listings for powerVu on the Europian Satellite
transponder lists..

[john43]

Hi Basset,

Tnx for replaying on my questions. I had the oppertunity for buying this receiver. It works ok on different fta transmissions. Mainly german an italy transponders.
I think i saw 20 or 25 different channels. But as i understand the powervu mode is impossible for me to receive for i have no permission or card. I am thinking to sell it then to a hobbyist who can play with codes or something.
Thanks for the answers.

Greetings from the Netherlands

John

[bassett]

Good Stuff, John,,,
Please feel free to read the forum, and even though you are in Holland, Its very nice to hear from people from other parts of the world. and if you contribute every now and again, So much the better..
Best regards from Oz bassett

[theslydog]

The video chip that scientific Atlanta used in the D9234 is one of the best I have seen. The picture quality is superb.
But that is about it. Menus are difficult, remote is crap. Wont store a variety of transponders and channels - designed for only one bouquet at a time.
To get a D9234 activated you need a release letter from the original provider the box was first activated on, a letter from the new provider it will be changed to and then you need Sciencific Atlanta in Canada to agree to the whole deal. Every box they have ever produced is individually documented and logged in their data base. Generally only for companies.

Try some of these in Europe
http://www.sat-city.com/news/
new coship CDVB 5300B (A is for US has no SCART) is cheap and looks ok

tsd

[bassett]

Can remember the early S.A. receivers, 20 channels only, no remote and very,very slow.. But as you say, superb picture quality, Which when you consider it, There a relay machine..

They tell me the latest models have a smartcard slot in the back,
but i can't confirm this, But if this is so, perhaps they have changed the autherisation procedure..

[theslydog]

Didnt know the new ones got a smartcard slot in the back.

I got a D9234 and it has a smartcard slot in the front. The manual says it for security purposes.

The receiver is equipped with a smart card slot in the
front panel of the unit. Smart cards may be used to
change the security and identity of the receiver if
piracy of the signal is suspected.

So maybe you can update the U/A number with a smartcard.

I wish they would bring out a CI for powervu then I could run it in a PVR CI box.

[john43]

The D 9234 wich works here is also provided with a cardslot at the front.
When i insert my funcard or canal+ card it tells me that the card is registred at the same number as in the screen on top
There is a sort of registry number and without card it says 0 and with a card inserted in a lot of identical numbers on two rows
The funpart is that the atlanta not seems to see or the card is inserted upside down or not


John
The Netherlands

[sinbad]

Guys......Its been a long while since I posted.

I was given a SC 9234 Decoder by a friend to check and I put it on my system at home (2X2.4M dishes, Humax, Sat Cruiser, VBox).

I put the 9234 on my system and disabled the power view by doing the following....... info I found on the net

To Change from Power view to non powerVu:

Press Menu
Press INFO button twice (two times)
Press 4
Press 0
The "Fixed PIDS" window will be displayed
Press UP button to move to the Tune Mode bar

Press SELECT several times until the NON POWER VU or POWER VU settings appear. (you want NON POWER VU)

Press the down arrow key
Press SELECT
Press 1 to save changes
Press EXIT
Press Channel up and down to get reception

By the way this works as I have tried it on the box I got to test.

The problem I face is I can only tune one channel on 9234, meaning when I go in and set up the freg,S/R,FEC,V/H, the box tunes ok and works fine but when I try to enter another frequency for the next service on C Band it simply overwrites the last entry.

I have a manual and there is little info in it. I was able to get some info from the net to change it from Power VU to Non Power Vu Model.

Unlike the Humax that stacks the channels as you tune a new channel. This box overwrites the old frequency so that you are left with the new channel only.

Also on channels where I have a clear picture with my Humax, this box will not lock on.

Can an expert out there tell me if this is a good box? What is it worth...there is no access card. It maybe easy to just tell my mate to get a humax or similar.....this way he can use a V Box to drive his actuator at a later date.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sinbad

[bassett]

As we said earler these receivers are superb picture quality, but they are intended as a relay unit for a pay provider, One channel , one box. They sit there in a rack, grinding away 24/7
So having a large loading capasaty, is really not needed..
It's just a set and forget machine.

At one time these units sold for many thousands of dollars, these days, who knows, if you can find a buyer, let him set the price,
really if you can get your money back, your in front.

The modern version of these would be a MPEG 4-2-2 unit. Again superbly enginnered. The Alteia 942a is one such unit. twenty channel bouquay, and the thing weighs a ton and is a metre square, The price 2000 pounds sterling, and that was a while ago. But 4-2-2 is being used more and more from portable
up-link units . I had a poke round a channel 7 unit a while ago and they had two of the things , sitting there , bolted down.
curses,,

[theslydog]

sinbad

Let me know if u every want to sell it as I was looking for a spare for the cupboard in case the one I got dies.

tsd

[Apsattv]

Power Vu units software can be upgraded I think via one channel in the Pas 8 ESPN mux?

They are still used of course in W.A off Pas 2 KU for TV though I do wonder about this service being obselete since C1 went up.

If you ask some shops over that way they may have some Authorised chips out of scrapped units. You just plug in the i.d chip and it works.

As to the newer powervu units someone over that way was testing one. It outputs Broadcast quality video DVI digital output and also connects directly to video servers etc. Also has the full works in terms of digital audio outputs and inputs.


A bit more than the average hobbyist needs!!

[darrinparker]

The Scientific Atlants D2394 can store 24 presets numbered 0-23. It has been many years since I used this feature but with a little time I'm sure you can figure them out. This feature is not well documented so if you have trouble let me know and I wiill set the old machiene up and figure out how its done again.

While the presets remain in memory even when the unit is powered down or disconected from the mains, there is one hiccup if the chanel you preset you wish to use is not transmitting at the time you wish to watch it, the unit will revert to a previously used preset where signal is present.

[darrinparker]

These instructions are very dated but check ut the following URL

http://www.amcdiscovery.com.au/network.htm

you will need to apply the principles to your situation

dp

[Chas1962]

OK, Newbie here.

First things first...I joined this site about 4-5 hours ago, and I have been reading since I got here. I moderate, and/or admin at a few sites of my own, so I know to read. (I can prove I have been reading....if you look in bassett's window, he's already typing a subtle reply that suggests "Read Read Read" before I can even finish...LOL)

With that being said, I realized about an hour in that most of what you guys are aiming at, may or may not be in my view. (still reading) but kept reading anyway to pick up some basics of the hobby, and not so much what you were watching. I have picked up some good pointers so far, thanks to all.

Here is some brief background. I am a deployed American soldier currently stationed in Kuwait. We fell in on another groups equipment when we got here. I found to receivers, (1 is a Goldsat DSR-9400 DV3 Gold-Box) and 2 differant size dishes. So like any electronics freak would do, I started to read and put one of these together. And I did just that. I am currently locked on to AFN Sat (don't ask me where, I just know it's east of Kuwait.)


Now, Back on topic...When I got to this thread my eyes popped open, ahh,...Scientific Atlanta PowerVU D9234 Business Satellite Receiver...That's what I have. And one of the reasons I am here reading is to see what, if anything is out there other than AFN that I could watch. But after reading this thread, I had to stop reading and ask....Am I wasting my time. The way I am reading this thread, I am.

You guys mentioned security... my powerVU security is set to 0, and there is no card. (slot is in the front) And I seem to have access to change all settings if that matters.

The 2 dishes (Non-Motorized) I have are solid, one is about 36" across (E H Galaxy wrote on it) and the other is about 5' diameter. I am currently using the 36" one and recieving all the AFN channels.

I guess bottem line is, am I wasting my time reseaching differant sats and FTA for this system? And if that is the case, is there anything I can do with the Goldsat DSR-9400 DV3 Gold-Box.

Thanks for your time fellow sat guru's.