Strong + Atom

[tenorman]

I have a Strong 4653X controlling a Moteck Motor. In the same line via a splitter I have my old Atom receiver. The power is OFF to the Atom( the moteck motor power I mean) so that the Strong is the only one that can move the dish. My problem is...if the Strong is on a Horizontal Station, the Atom cannot resolve a vertical station.
e.g D1, Strong on the new SBS,Vertical, the Atom can only see that as well and the Vertical ones (TV! etc) will not show on the Atom.
Is there some way to configure the Atom to overcome this?

[Satech]

You will need a dual output LNBf. The second or newly created output goes directly to the Atom so it can independently control polarity, allowing the 4653X to control it's own polarity + the Moteck...

[tenorman]

You will need a dual output LNBf. The second or newly created output goes directly to the Atom so it can independently control polarity, allowing the 4653X to control it's own polarity + the Moteck...

Thanks for your reply...is that one of those dual ones you see that Sky are now installing? I thought those were used to view two different sats?
Could you explain a bit more please...a bit dumb here

[wiilliiss]

those can do 2 sats to 3/4 sat boxes all at once.

[Satech]

http://www.strong-technologies.com/frmProdDetails.aspx?id=245#

[tenorman]

http://www.strong-technologies.com/frmProdDetails.aspx?id=245#

Ok got it now. Will look out for one..The Strong webpage you sent me the url for was great thanks

[tenorman]

Just landed a dual lnb and it works ok with the Strong, but nothing doing with the Atom. Not a beep out of that. Had to change the frequency range on the Strong to 9.750/10.750 to get it to go. In the Atom there are a lot of options for the frequency range but nothing works. It has a U9.75/10.75 which you would think was the one but NO not a thing. I did a Loop from the Strong to the Atom just now and its working ok there with the LNB set to U9.75/10.75 so that is the one.
Why is it not working back via the dual lnb?
Tried it with both outlets on the Dual so can't be a fault with the lnb. It just doesn't seem to want to drive the lnb on it's own.....buy a new one I hear you say lol. that wasn't the reason for buying the dual.
Any help please.

You will need a dual output LNBf. The second or newly created output goes directly to the Atom so it can independently control polarity, allowing the 4653X to control it's own polarity + the Moteck...

[Jacko]

Turn the LNB power on in the Atom.

[tenorman]

I now have the Atom working but a problem with a couple of frequencies.
The SBS on D1 is fine on the Atom (72%) but breaks up on the Strong. Changed the leads over from one to the other but the same problem.Frequencie on D2 is 12643 V as well, others ok ????

Turn the LNB power on in the Atom.

[Sky_Satt]

What type of dual lnb are you using? sky dual throat? uni with twin ports?

[tenorman]

It's called a Digital Satellite LNB Designed in E.U. Ku-band Universal Twin LNBF
They are also available in Quad LNBF according to the box it came in.
Funny I just tried the Strong again and now SBS is stable and not breaking up anymore. Don't recall doing anything special......lol.
What type of dual lnb are you using? sky dual throat? uni with twin ports?

[Sky_Satt]

There should be a spec sheet that came with the lnb or it may be written on box check an set lnb within to those specs in the lnb set-up menu of your receivers, your lnb uni may be a 9750-10600

[tenorman]

It has been labeled (with a sticker I see by the seller) L.O. 9.75GHZ / 10.75GHZ
wich is the only setting I have found works anyway. Do you think this should be edited slightly?


There should be a spec sheet that came with the lnb or it may be written on box check an set lnb within to those specs in the lnb set-up menu of your receivers, your lnb uni may be a 9750-10600

[tenorman]

thanks for your help. The seller has now been in contact with me and is sending a replacement for me to try. So hopefully all will be corrected.
Here are the specs he sent me>

F/D Ratio 0.6
Input Interface waveguide WR-75
Noise Figure 0.65dB(Typ.)
Image Rejection 45dB(min.)
L.O. Frequency 11.3GHz

L.O. Frequency
Stability
+-2.5MHz@-40 to +60 C
Output Connector 75ohms F type female
D.C.Current
Consumption 160mA(Max.)
Input Frequency Range 10.7-12.75GHz
Conversion Gain 50dB(Typ.)
Cross Pol.lsolation 20dB(Typ.)
Gain Flatness +-1dB/36MHz
L.O.Phase Noise -70dBc/Hz@10kHz
-90dBc/Hz@100kHz
-110dBc/Hz@1MHz
Output Frequency Range 950-1450MHz
Output Power
(at 1dB gain compression) 0dB(Min.)
Polarity Switching Voltage V:12-14.5 H:16-18
Operation Temperatuie -40 to +60

Cheers


There should be a spec sheet that came with the lnb or it may be written on box check an set lnb within to those specs in the lnb set-up menu of your receivers, your lnb uni may be a 9750-10600

[Sky_Satt]

tenorman L.O. Frequency 11.3GHz


LO 11300 single lnb

[Sky_Satt]

MTI twin lnb 9750-10600 is superior in quality each port will provide independence when using stbs in other rooms or when driving a moteck.

[tenorman]

Must be different, I changed the D2 to 9750-10600 and the signals dropped out all together. I had changed Asiasat4 to 9000-10600 and still worked ok.
Anyway thnx for your help. After checking evry sat just a mo ago they are all perfect again. maybe a weather problem as it has been raining yesterday off and on. D1 and D2 are at over 90% except SBS on D1 which is over 75. So all a bit confusing. Will try the forthcoming replacement lnb and see.

MTI twin lnb 9750-10600 is superior in quality each port will provide independence when using stbs in other rooms or when driving a moteck.

[tenorman]

Installed dual lnb as suggested and now both polariies are ok on the Atom..TNX
You will need a dual output LNBf. The second or newly created output goes directly to the Atom so it can independently control polarity, allowing the 4653X to control it's own polarity + the Moteck...