View Full Version : DYNASAT NO1. MINI
siliggy
16-05-2007, 11:02 PM
The Ebay seller makes this claim:
"Find all the channels on any satellite
including the hidden ones"
Can it really? Is it true? Has anyone tried one on C1 or D1?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Digital-Satellite-Receiver-FTA-Power-BLIND-SCAN_W0QQitemZ250116326433
lazer
17-05-2007, 01:25 AM
Its a blind scan reciever it will find whatever is up there like any other blindscan reciever
siliggy
17-05-2007, 03:32 AM
Its a blind scan reciever it will find whatever is up there like any other blindscan reciever
A normal blind scanner will not find hidden channels. The claim is that it will find channels not transponders but channels. Look closely at the wording you can see that the claim distinguishes between hidden and not hidden channels.
Ocean
17-05-2007, 04:05 AM
Buy and try - then the mystery will be resolved !
I don't think this receiver will find channels on transponders which have no PAT, SID etc., unless the designers have used a clever processor and software which actually resolves busy PIDs and looks for obvious video/audio streams.
The description is more than likely a product of a salesman rather than a Design Engineer....(my guess)
lazer
17-05-2007, 04:52 AM
The description is more than likely a product of a salesman rather than a Design Engineer....(my guess)
Exactly what I think just someone trying to sell there product
marty 17
17-05-2007, 07:46 AM
Has "anyone" tried this product personally ??
siliggy
21-05-2007, 04:21 AM
Buy and try - then the mystery will be resolved !
Challenge accepted.......It does not find them on its own.
This box screams cheap.
All plastic box.
RF out but no RF in.
RF out is RCA.
There is only one AV out:Composite Y,R,W RCA's.
The RS232 is a just right angled PCB header.
There is a menu button on the front. This would give you the impression that you can do things without the remote. When you press "menu" up comes the password box. It's 8888 but I could not enter a number without the remote.
Ok. So lets do a scan and see what it finds: After setting the video format from default NTSC to PAL B/G. Then tried to select Optus C1 to set the LNB to uni.....There is no C1 but there are 2 Optus D1's:
D1(c) and D1(Ku).
So used the Manhattan to move the dish to D1. Then changed the LNB from "standard 10600 to uni. WOW! It scanned all the transponders (including) ymparja and channels (excecpt) ymparja in very fast. Very fast indeed for a full Uni freq search. Unlike the Star it displayed the found transponders then scanned them for channels (like the manhattan does).
The only choices found for the blind (auto) search were "FTA" or "ALL"
The freq's and SR's were out a bit on some but close EG 5420 instead of 5425. A manual PID search did not get Ymparja but did get Aljaz later on a manually entered new sat (Optus C1).
Did manage to get Ymparja by editing an encrapted Sky NZ channel to it. This can be done for both transponder freq and PID's all in the one screen.
To do this: Go to the channel you will sacrifice, Press OK then 4 then 8888, the rest is obvious.
The motor control stuff looks very good for scanning the sky with . It has variable step sizes and a calculation?, continuous move, and there is a remote button that takes you to the motor page.
There is a remote button that takes you straight to the signal meter. the page that comes up has all the info about the channel (even Text PID). meter reads BER and intensity with what looks like a real number for BER.
Spent a long time trying to figure out how to rename the channel. then noticed a remote button just for that also.
I reckon for the money this is a great little play toy but it really does look cheap and nasty.
The audio seems to default to Left not stereo and I found a satellite dish pointing guide calculator hidden away near the factory reset function.
siliggy
21-05-2007, 04:44 AM
Just found another tricky function. Without saving the position I loaded transponder frq and SR then in the motor position control menu selected continuous west it went all the way to the east. Ok no surprises there but the surprise came on the way back. It stopped on the sat. So I entered another transponder from another sat and did it again. It stopped as soon as it had lock. So it can find sats by signal lock as well as stored position.
Ocean
21-05-2007, 07:02 AM
Another mystery solved....and your last post about the motor being commanded to stop when parameters match is interesting.
To save time loading Ebay and my own bandwidth.....what was the landed price ?
farmsky
21-05-2007, 07:52 AM
Good work siliggy. Sounds like a handy box and worth the asking price and unlike the Star; some sort of website support
http://www.dynasat.com/thai/t_receiver.htm :)
siliggy
21-05-2007, 11:03 AM
Price I paid including freight was $71 but ebay being the lucky dip it is, have seen them go for both more and less.
LeroyPatrol1
21-05-2007, 12:15 PM
So is this a recommendation Siliggy? How does it compare to this one?
http://www.aussiesatellite.com/Satellite%20Receiver.htm
There is a manal with screen shots on the site as well
Leroy
Apsattv
21-05-2007, 01:00 PM
Can you post some shots of the menus..
bassett
21-05-2007, 01:02 PM
Sounds like you got your money's worth M8. well done.. we look forward to more reports on what it will do. The satellite scan, with the dish stopping on satellite is not new , Hyundai do it, But it sounds like yours is an improved version, with theres you start my adding your geographicial position to the receiver.
Your right about e-bay, what you think will be cheap, goes for a small fortune and what looks expencive goes cheaper then the postage.. And the postage // freight is the trap. I buy a lot of C.D.'s via e-bay and you can pay anything from 2 bucks up to 5 in postage. then the CD costs you $1.99 crazy.
siliggy
21-05-2007, 11:28 PM
So is this a recommendation Siliggy? How does it compare to this one?
http://www.aussiesatellite.com/Satellite%20Receiver.htm
There is a manal with screen shots on the site as well
Leroy
That one may be better Leyroy. With the support,SVHS,Ant in, metal box,Db9, and loop through and at that price (although you need to buy ten and share them around).
Modulator with the old screw adjustment don't look to good.
And what is the "TSG" switch for? Ground?
Edit:TSG would most likely be "Test Signal Generator" for tuning the mod output in on the TV.
LeroyPatrol1
22-05-2007, 01:57 AM
Oh what have I done.....I just won one on Ebay! $76 so a bit more $ than the Dynasat but a mate will pick it up for me later today and bring it up so I saved on postage. We shall see what it's like!
Leroy
siliggy
23-05-2007, 09:06 AM
Sounds like you got your money's worth M8. well done.. we look forward to more reports on what it will do
Have been thinking about stepping around the sky doing searches of any squeal from the sat finder.
Could have sold it today but I was honest and said "Its a cheap nasty one".
Can you post some shots of the menus..
Have no video capture device atm. Need to borrow the daughters camera and fart around to do that so perhaps on the weekend.
Ruth77
31-05-2007, 08:42 AM
Challenge accepted.......It does not find them on its own.
This box screams cheap.
All plastic box.
RF out but no RF in.
RF out is RCA.
There is only one AV out:Composite Y,R,W RCA's.
The RS232 is a just right angled PCB header.
There is a menu button on the front. This would give you the impression that you can do things without the remote. When you press "menu" up comes the password box. It's 8888 but I could not enter a number without the remote.
Ok. So lets do a scan and see what it finds: After setting the video format from default NTSC to PAL B/G. Then tried to select Optus C1 to set the LNB to uni.....There is no C1 but there are 2 Optus D1's:
D1(c) and D1(Ku).
So used the Manhattan to move the dish to D1. Then changed the LNB from "standard 10600 to uni. WOW! It scanned all the transponders (including) ymparja and channels (excecpt) ymparja in very fast. Very fast indeed for a full Uni freq search. Unlike the Star it displayed the found transponders then scanned them for channels (like the manhattan does).
The only choices found for the blind (auto) search were "FTA" or "ALL"
The freq's and SR's were out a bit on some but close EG 5420 instead of 5425. A manual PID search did not get Ymparja but did get Aljaz later on a manually entered new sat (Optus C1).
Did manage to get Ymparja by editing an encrapted Sky NZ channel to it. This can be done for both transponder freq and PID's all in the one screen.
To do this: Go to the channel you will sacrifice, Press OK then 4 then 8888, the rest is obvious.
The motor control stuff looks very good for scanning the sky with . It has variable step sizes and a calculation?, continuous move, and there is a remote button that takes you to the motor page.
There is a remote button that takes you straight to the signal meter. the page that comes up has all the info about the channel (even Text PID). meter reads BER and intensity with what looks like a real number for BER.
Spent a long time trying to figure out how to rename the channel. then noticed a remote button just for that also.
I reckon for the money this is a great little play toy but it really does look cheap and nasty.
The audio seems to default to Left not stereo and I found a satellite dish pointing guide calculator hidden away near the factory reset function.
Thanks siliggy for the helpful info. I bought 2 of these just for fun, they are very small and all plastic, however
they dont look cheap and nasty.Composite output only but it works well and even looks pretty good on my 42"
pana plasma.They certainly found all channels quickly apart from Imparja.Had a bit of trouble getting Imparja
on both units, had to manually enter the info as siliggy suggests however neither would hold Imparja after a
shut down and restart.I managed to fix them by changing the sat setup lnb settings to a "user" type and entered
10700 and 11300 even though my lnb is a fixed 10700.I had also to change the Imparja channel settings to S/R
5420 not 5425 and freq 12649 on 1 and 12640 on the other 1.Very messy indeed but both fire up ok and Imparja
has'nt gone so far. I will keep 1 for my roof top install unit coupled with a mini TV it will work great.Will
now get a 2888 from aussiesatellite for some more fun, these look a better unit and not much more $.
Forgot to mention the remote works very well up to 10 mtrs NP.
viewer
31-05-2007, 09:33 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Dynasat-Number-1-Mini-Satellite-Receiver_W0QQitemZ300116648312QQihZ020QQcategoryZ1 09897QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
not mine...someone might fancy this buy it now ?
gulliver
31-05-2007, 11:32 AM
So is buying them???? I bid on 3 of them and lost ( $60.00) I want to try 1 out for that price
LeroyPatrol1
31-05-2007, 01:07 PM
[QUOTE=Ruth77;80411]now get a 2888 from aussiesatellite for some more fun, these look a better unit and not much more $.
QUOTE]
I bought one of these and I reckon the build quality is pretty good for only a few bucks more than some of the other fta blind scanners. I'm yet to try scan in D1 as the weather has been too bad the last couple of nights but first impressions of easy of use and pid modification is good. $76 on ebay is not too bad and you can pick up if in Melb. saving on post.
Leroy
Eddy39
01-06-2007, 08:14 PM
To anyone with a Dynasat receiver.... is it possible to connect receiver to internet to update latest satellites numbers?, my 7200 does not have or seem to accept D1 and B3 even though I get a very strong signal of 72%. I have difficulties getting the Thai site english version and cannot find the download section.
siliggy
01-06-2007, 09:45 PM
Can't you just add a new satellite or rename an existing one Eddy39?
You can do these things with the mini.
Eddy39
02-06-2007, 11:22 AM
Hi siliggy, there are lots of spare channels but they do not seem to pick up the loads I put in the add/edit section.Will try overwritting on Thai/Japanese program that do not have footprints over here. Would have been nice to just upload factory settings of sats in this part of the world.
farmsky
03-06-2007, 08:29 AM
.... Would have been nice to just upload factory settings of sats in this part of the world.
That's why we call it a hobby :)
Eddy39
04-06-2007, 11:50 AM
Sick of climbing the ladder for each miniscule shift so lifted the dish/pole out of base with the FEL and set it in concrete, now LNB 2 mt off the ground but will only go PAS2 to Asiasat2. Will start playing with it again once concrete sets.
memosyd
04-06-2007, 01:32 PM
The Ebay seller makes this claim:
"Find all the channels on any satellite
including the hidden ones"
Can it really? Is it true? Has anyone tried one on C1 or D1?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Digital-Satellite-Receiver-FTA-Power-BLIND-SCAN_W0QQitemZ250116326433
i bought one on e-bay for $71 and its a nice little no frills blind scanner has good features and easy to use very responsive with the signal im very happy with it scans a sat. in around 1-2 mins
gulliver
15-06-2007, 07:25 AM
Challenge accepted.......It does not find them on its own.
This box screams cheap.
All plastic box.
RF out but no RF in.
RF out is RCA.
There is only one AV out:Composite Y,R,W RCA's.
The RS232 is a just right angled PCB header.
There is a menu button on the front. This would give you the impression that you can do things without the remote. When you press "menu" up comes the password box. It's 8888 but I could not enter a number without the remote.
Ok. So lets do a scan and see what it finds: After setting the video format from default NTSC to PAL B/G. Then tried to select Optus C1 to set the LNB to uni.....There is no C1 but there are 2 Optus D1's:
D1(c) and D1(Ku).
So used the Manhattan to move the dish to D1. Then changed the LNB from "standard 10600 to uni. WOW! It scanned all the transponders (including) ymparja and channels (excecpt) ymparja in very fast. Very fast indeed for a full Uni freq search. Unlike the Star it displayed the found transponders then scanned them for channels (like the manhattan does).
The only choices found for the blind (auto) search were "FTA" or "ALL"
The freq's and SR's were out a bit on some but close EG 5420 instead of 5425. A manual PID search did not get Ymparja but did get Aljaz later on a manually entered new sat (Optus C1).
Did manage to get Ymparja by editing an encrapted Sky NZ channel to it. This can be done for both transponder freq and PID's all in the one screen.
To do this: Go to the channel you will sacrifice, Press OK then 4 then 8888, the rest is obvious.
The motor control stuff looks very good for scanning the sky with . It has variable step sizes and a calculation?, continuous move, and there is a remote button that takes you to the motor page.
There is a remote button that takes you straight to the signal meter. the page that comes up has all the info about the channel (even Text PID). meter reads BER and intensity with what looks like a real number for BER.
Spent a long time trying to figure out how to rename the channel. then noticed a remote button just for that also.
I reckon for the money this is a great little play toy but it really does look cheap and nasty.
The audio seems to default to Left not stereo and I found a satellite dish pointing guide calculator hidden away near the factory reset function.
Thanks alot, I got one too,didn't know about 4,lol,Maybe we should start a new thread about this receiver. I like it a lot.
gulliver
15-06-2007, 10:25 AM
Challenge accepted.......It does not find them on its own.
This box screams cheap.
All plastic box.
RF out but no RF in.
RF out is RCA.
There is only one AV out:Composite Y,R,W RCA's.
The RS232 is a just right angled PCB header.
There is a menu button on the front. This would give you the impression that you can do things without the remote. When you press "menu" up comes the password box. It's 8888 but I could not enter a number without the remote.
Ok. So lets do a scan and see what it finds: After setting the video format from default NTSC to PAL B/G. Then tried to select Optus C1 to set the LNB to uni.....There is no C1 but there are 2 Optus D1's:
D1(c) and D1(Ku).
So used the Manhattan to move the dish to D1. Then changed the LNB from "standard 10600 to uni. WOW! It scanned all the transponders (including) ymparja and channels (excecpt) ymparja in very fast. Very fast indeed for a full Uni freq search. Unlike the Star it displayed the found transponders then scanned them for channels (like the manhattan does).
The only choices found for the blind (auto) search were "FTA" or "ALL"
The freq's and SR's were out a bit on some but close EG 5420 instead of 5425. A manual PID search did not get Ymparja but did get Aljaz later on a manually entered new sat (Optus C1).
Did manage to get Ymparja by editing an encrapted Sky NZ channel to it. This can be done for both transponder freq and PID's all in the one screen.
To do this: Go to the channel you will sacrifice, Press OK then 4 then 8888, the rest is obvious.
The motor control stuff looks very good for scanning the sky with . It has variable step sizes and a calculation?, continuous move, and there is a remote button that takes you to the motor page.
There is a remote button that takes you straight to the signal meter. the page that comes up has all the info about the channel (even Text PID). meter reads BER and intensity with what looks like a real number for BER.
Spent a long time trying to figure out how to rename the channel. then noticed a remote button just for that also.
I reckon for the money this is a great little play toy but it really does look cheap and nasty.
The audio seems to default to Left not stereo and I found a satellite dish pointing guide calculator hidden away near the factory reset function.
Thanks alot, I got one too,didn't know about 4,lol,Maybe we should start a new thread about this receiver. I like it a lot.
farmsky
20-07-2007, 08:55 AM
Here's Siliggys excellent Dynasat review with a few additions in a 3 page pdf, complete with some 'tacky' screen shots.
It's a nice box at the right price, so it deserves it :)
Hope u don't mind the plagarism ;)
siliggy
20-07-2007, 11:16 AM
Here's Siliggys excellent Dynasat review with a few additions in a 3 page pdf, complete with some 'tacky' screen shots.
http://www.vetrun.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5464&d=1184921631
It's a nice box at the right price, so it deserves it :)
Hope u don't mind the plagarism ;)
Don't mind! A few good improvements there.
Looks like the "precious little of it" increased a bit.
While this box is a good cheap additional toy for a hobbyist (especially in combination with a universal LNB and 90 or so motorised setup). I would not recommend it as the main unit. The site sponsors ST’s, a Strong 46**x, a Hyundai or Fortec etc would be worth the extra money.
farmsky
20-07-2007, 12:12 PM
I must confess I'd picked one up at a really truely bargain basement price, rather unexpectantly on eBay a month or so ago and it had just sat in it's box without any purpose, until the other day when someone started asking a few techo questions.
So I dragged it out not expecting a great deal. I guess I was surprised .... given my only blind scan comparison box is the somewhat dyslectic Star 2880A/B. It's miles ahead and cheaper.
It's really without vice as a blind scanner/FTA viewer (I guess there's a few minor quirks). The one exception .... no aspect ratio change. It's 4:3 or nothing (just like the Star). But then it's a cheap 'channel finder', so do we really care?
But if it's destined to sit centre stage in the family entertainment console .... do as Siliggy suggested ....... and fork out just a few more $. :)
It'll probably go back in it's packing box shortly .... next to the Star.
One day I'll find a cheap C-band dish and it can earn it's keep.
But in the final analysis it truely is a Cheap and Cheerful Handy Dandy Dynasat.
LeroyPatrol
21-07-2007, 09:33 AM
4:3...hmmm. That southern cross receiver I bought has 16:9 and 4:3 pan and scan options as well as 4:3. You can edit channel names. I was thinking of getting a Dynasat for a mate so I could also have a bit of a play but I won't worry now that it I know it has no wide screen.
Farmsky, out of curiosity how does the blind scan speed of the Dynasat compare to the Star 2880B?
Leroy
farmsky
21-07-2007, 10:17 AM
Yes that's it's real downfall. It's a cheap finder, but you'll need a 'real stb' to find and view in comfort.
In all honesty I've only tried it with an 11300 lnb. Siliggy did a universal and was 'impressed'.
It took about 1.5 minutes for Pas8 with an 11300 lnb (that means it's scanning 12.25 - 12.75GHz). Pretty quick! It scans for carriers (quickly), then scan in the channels.
The Star on the other hand, searches small frequency increments, one by one, which takes for ever.
I know you've posted some positive stuff about the Southern Cross. Perhaps a simple review? It does help clarify things for folk spending their hard earned dollars. :)
LeroyPatrol
21-07-2007, 10:28 AM
I still don't know if it's in the 'real STB' catagory. I did do a simple Southern Cross review. Maybe a little too simple?
http://www.vetrun.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7188
Leroy
farmsky
21-07-2007, 10:42 AM
SVHS and Panscan. It's in the big league :)
Mycenius
13-05-2008, 10:14 AM
It's 4:3 or nothing (just like the Star).
Hi all,
Just wondering if someone can confirm the Dynasat No.1 Mini is only 4:3 and can't handle 16:9 format?
Also what's the RF output like?
TIA
LeroyPatrol
13-05-2008, 09:47 PM
Hi all,
Just wondering if someone can confirm the Dynasat No.1 Mini is only 4:3 and can't handle 16:9 format?
Also what's the RF output like?
TIA
From memory it did 16:9. Not a bad box for the bucks!
Leroy
bassett
14-05-2008, 03:06 AM
Years ago Dynasat had a good name and where a very reliable receiver,
Mycenius
14-05-2008, 07:40 AM
From memory it did 16:9. Not a bad box for the bucks! Leroy
Okay - Thanks Leroy. :)
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