Healing HSDS850

[Apsattv]

Is that the healing box that is a Emetabox clone?
If so what software have you got in it?

[siliggy]

Are there some pictures of Emetabox's or menu's from it in another thread?

[siliggy]

Let's talk about this box here.
It's easy to enter PIDs for IMPARJA or RUSSIA TODAY with this one.

One thing nice this box does is it can be used as a modulator for external AV inputs. However the software needs refinement because you need to switch it off after or it does strange stuff.

That strange $ appears as PSDA mentioned and some bizzare TP swapping frequencies occasionaly while in the search mode are the only real and very minor problems I have seen.

[PDSA]

To carry this discussion from where it started in the B1 thread... I was surprised to hear the suggestion that the Healing box was an Emetabox clone. I would like to know more if there is a possibility of playing with the software. The HSDS850 is certainly an excellent piece of gear at the right price, but it does have a couple of minor annoyances as mentioned above.

[Apsattv]

We havn't confirmed if its an emeta clone or not?

post a piccy of the menus?

[Apsattv]

Just had a look in my old satfacts, yes the menus of the Healing Digital look totally like an Emeta clone although slightly customized.

I bet the MTG software would work perfectly on it.

Can you give some info from the software info screen?

[bassett]

Well to date there are 72 @matabox clone out there, So it's quite possable, as for software, chances are that's also modified M3 software, BUT, I would not recommend loading the genuine M3 software, as all the latest virsions , have a trap installed, and if the software is not compaterable , you will get the magac message on the screen,, ""UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE IS BEING LOADED"" and you can't remove the message.

If however the software is unstable, and does strange things, switches channels, goes to mute, turns of completly, it sounds more like a Divitone

[Apsattv]

Strange my divitone has none of the problem you mentioned and also works fine with the MTG software as supplied by mr Blackcrusader

Screenshot in satfacts seems to have very similar menus except for addition of A healing digital logo in the menu.

Maybe this software is based upon a really old version?

Post your system info menus anyway.

[PDSA]

Hope these make sense to someone.

[Apsattv]

It looks a lot like a customized version of emeta software. Do you have a .bin of the software?

[PDSA]

No. Is it possible to get one? If so, how? I have a large collection of various serial and nul serial cables etc. if that helps. I presume I would need a downloader of some description... where can I find one of those? This is getting interesting.

[Apsattv]

Might not be an emeta clone after all do a google for
s02a fta plus
weird thing is the backdrop is the same as an emeta and the menus are very similar

[PDSA]

Looks like a Coship clone. Never heard of them, but then I am quite new to this game. They use something called upTools for PC connectivity. I will investigate further.

[siliggy]

If you put two of these healing boxes back to back with a null modem cable the transponder settings etc are copied from the first one you switch on to the other one. No buttons to be pressed at all!
The weird stuff does not seem to happen during normal use(execpt the external modulator one). Most of tose things happen only in the installation menu while searching or positioning etc. It's a good reliable box.

[bassett]

It looks a lot like a customized version of emeta software. Do you have a .bin of the software?

those screen shots of the menu's are nothing like a @metabox, I really don't know why you continue to make outragues statements, like that, all your doing is confussing the issue, and the user.

Also the screen shot of the receiver software, is nothing like a @metabox software script

for genuine screen shots of a @metabox, I syggest you look here,
http://forum.taiwansatellites.tv/ this site is specifily for @metabox users.

[siliggy]

That link did not work for me Bassett. Are there some letters missing?

[Apsattv]

Nothing like them? same backdrop same fonts same icons

They may have taken an old version of the emeta software and customized it.

[PDSA]

This does look very much like my menus. No doubt about it. However, googling the info off the software screen suggests that it is a Coship clone with an STi processor. I found a loader but I can't find a BIN. Screen shot of newer Coship menus look very nice. Anyway, all ideas are appreciated because I will need more info before I have a play.

[Apsattv]

I'm thinking Co-ship may have taken a very old version of the emeta software and modified it. Version 2.42 is the oldest Emeta soft I've seen and the menus have changed heaps since then. Might be a good idea to ask about it at al7bar forums.

Some boxes will take several kinds of software, you just require a different remote control to use it! in the U.S some boxes are sold with 2 remotes and you just flash it to the software you prefer.

[bassett]

Please cheak your PM,, Siliggy

[siliggy]

Thanks Basset. Got that n had a look. You are right. That one is not much like the Healing at all but the one Apsattv has posted is similar. I am not to keen to play with the software in these things because apart from the weirdness after using the modulator the bugs are not that annoying.
Although It would be good to know the handshaking protocol that goes on between the boxes as they clone each others channels.
Then I could have a small library of different setups stored on the PC.
Would that possibly be a format like the satcodex files?

[Apsattv]

Shots I posted were from the very latest metabox software release as provided by Blackcrusader.

Dated March I think?

Anyway interesting that they are so similar

[siliggy]

Last night it sent me spare with a #%&*!! software problem. For a while SCTV central changed to Taswegian TV. When I scanned it in, all the motor positions were suddenly gone or set to the far clockwise end. So one by one they need to be set back in.

[Apsattv]

Have you tried the Healng Digital website? maybe they have a newer software?

[PDSA]

The website has an email contact that they don't answer, although I get receipts to show that they have read my mail. It also has links to two pdf brochures. One for their Sat receiver and the other their terrestrial receiver. Otherwise ZIP! If anyone else knows of a web site closer to the source, please post.

[siliggy]

I have got them on the phone about it and expect some help soon. If i get some software etc. I will ask them if I can post it.
These boxes have been very good for people I know who don't play with the setup. All the bizzare stuff happens when you are in the installation menu etc. I am there playing a lot and only have hasles about 1 in a hundred times but that motor position one hurt.

[siliggy]

More weirdness from this box. Today I swapped the 11300 LNB for a UNI to play with Measat2. I set it up first on B1 and noticed that I had to rescan it. After rescan all but Imparja working. I set Pids for Imparja on another channel then it worked too. Only on the new channel but when I put the 11300 back, it works on both old and new. Figure that one out Dame Edna!

[Ocean]

Obtain a few more receiver types/models and compare the results.

The observations obtained may help your quest.

There is NO BEST receiver - they ALL have problems !

I like the Manhattan 550 (this week) but cannot enter PIDs manually to effect.....PVR is excellent.

[siliggy]

Good plan Ocean. I think the blame this time is external (zinwell uni LNB).
I like the topfeild 3200ir but it won't let me enter pids. I wonder how hard it would be to make a "mux simulator signal generator" so that you could scan pids in from a false signal that you have created.

[Ocean]

I haven't created a false signal.

[siliggy]

Need to find the format because there must be a lot of basic info encoded in the signal for pids n network search etc. Now I am wondering if a PIC would be fast enough to generate the signal to be modulated.

[bassett]

Ocean scribed with confidence,
Obtain a few more receiver types/models and compare the results.

The observations obtained may help your quest.

There is NO BEST receiver - they ALL have problems ! unquote,,,,,,,

Ocean, once again is correct, thats twice this year, joke, "smile''.. but the best receiver, is the one that does what you want it to. when you want it to..
There have been some apsolute dog's, and some brillint one's, but we all have our favorites, that work for us.. I would not swap my hyundai 800ci for anything, even if it does not have some of the attributes of some of the modern stuff, [ twice voted receiver of the year in the UK] and nokia still does it for me..

[siliggy]

Well I'm after a box that has the robust reliablity of the UEC's, connectivity and installation setup simplicity of the Healing, Motor control like the Topfeild, Blind scan like the manhatten and card abillity like Knuckleheads strong. PVR and USB would be nice also.
Is there one?

Oh and signal metering like the signalmax DSR3000

[Ocean]

Think Manhattan 550, and a have a separate 21 boxes to do the other bits which the 550 could do - IF enough supporters had them.

The 550 is now THE BOX - a software assist should enable manual PID entry.

Best find a TV with AV1,2,3 - plug in some other boxes, learn DiSEqC.... (I like my SONY WEGA)

Imparja on C1 is legit here !

There is a UEC for the fat-fingers too.

[simmo]

There have been some apsolute dog's, ..
No doubt about that!! ;) :D

[siliggy]

Thanks Ocean I'll have a look at the 550 for the enthusiast quality's. As for pids Russia today is also a reason. No doubt there will be more.

[bassett]

Mate, if the manhatten 550 is your best receiver, I'd hate to see whats lurking at the bottom of the pile.. probable a Dynasat 50, I had one of those, paid a lot of money for it too.

Might be time to buy a Triple Dragon or a Reel.

[PDSA]

I have found on a couple of occasions that entering a transponder frequency that is already in the data base causes the machine to change the frequency. Why, I am not sure, but maybe the software cannot handle duplicates. I discovered this when trying to enter identical Freq and symbol rate for a horizontal and a vertical TP. One TP freq would be "altered". I fixed this by entering one of the polarities with a dummy freq, saving everything and then going back and correcting the fake freq. Seems the software can't handle things unless it already knows that it is working with a different SR and Polarity. Make sense?

[siliggy]

I think the freqs just fine tune a bit I havent notice two not exactly the same yet? I have noticed some swap to totally different numbers from other transponders sometimes. Seems this box is better at Russia Today than others. Some boxes are pixelising after 1/2 hour but I run mine all night on RT and it's going fine in the morning.

[macey76]

Hi guys..
I have one of these box's but I cant remember the menu code to bring up the code edit....I think its something like 7717 or 7177 but neither are working..

Any help would be greatly appreciated..

macegreyhoundracing@bigpond.com

[Ocean]

Try a pirate site ?