Manhattan Vs Topfield

[adman]

Hi all,

This post isnt about STB bashing, but just an observation.

I have tried & tried unsuccessfully to load the Imaprja channel via B1 onto my Manhattan ST350.

I have entered the Pids, changed TP freq a little & even updated to latest software V79, all to no avail.

I dragged out the Topfield 3000CI Pro, set it up, punched in Vpids & Apids, & hey presto we have Imparja.

Is there something Im not doing right, or doesnt the ST350 manually scan properly.

ST350 will find the TP ok when advanced scanning, but wont load anything from that TP.

I have spoken to site sponsor, & they will look into it.

Anyone else got this channel on a ST350?

let us know.

thanks

cheers

adman

[VK4BKP]

Similar problem here with the ST120. It just won't load Imparja. ID Digital does though.

[jgarg]

I would try if there is available a pc loader and try typing in the details .I did this successfuly with my x2.

[siliggy]

I thought the whole idea of a blind scan box was to find stuff like that.

[VK4BKP]

It actually finds Imparja'a freq sr and fec siliggy but it just won't load it.

[satboy]

Slightly off topic i had a similar problem on AMC 23 were my Fortec lifetime ultra would blindscan and find a certain frequency but no way would it load up the channels, tried manually inputting the pids and still no go, only way i could get it to work was to downgrade my firmware, so more than likely i would say its a firmware problem, maybe i should also talk to Jason our site sponsor and see if he can get Fortec to look at fixing the bugs in there software for us here down under as it seems anything over firmware 2.31 and we start having problems with SR over 30000 etc etc.

Back to your problem if you have older firmware try them and see how it goes, not saying it will work but for us Fortec owners it sure does.

[simmo]

This has been an issue with allsorts of boxes in the past.
I dont know the answer.
Another member and I wanted to send a dvd data stream to the software guys up there, but it all proved too hard.
My fortec here, will load the tp, but wont load the chid, same with some stuff off measat etc...
It does make you wonder why you bought a blind scanner eh?! Well not really! There is not one box that will do every thing. Many have tried.
I think, we have come leaps and bounds, from the days of entering in everything! Our feed pages would be quiet really, if the boxes hadnt appeared on the market!
Perhaps Jason can wack a rocket up the bums of the software guru's to ask 'why is it so'...
I for one tho don't believe that the 'imp' chid that is so much in demand atm, will be around for much longer... but it would be good to see what these other tp's are doing...(bring on military decryption!)

[adman]

Thanks guys for your opinions & experiences you have had.

jgarg you mentioned you did it successfully with a "pc loader", was that with a Manhattan x 2?

cheers

adman

[jgarg]

I dont have a manhattan but I had a similar problem with a strong x2 box.I typed in all the details including pids and downloaded it to the receiver.Apparently the x2 would not update the pids when I tried inputing directly to the box.

[siliggy]

I was thinking of getting a ST120. Perhaps it would be good in combination with a box like the healing etc that can accept pids. I am wondering if it's something to do with licenced IRD2 software. It seems once the IRD2 behaves well in a box the pid entry does not. Does any one know of an exeception to this?

[bassett]

You get this, different receivers react differently, to some frequences and no amount of head bashing will get the things to load, I really think there is some sort of conflict in the software, that simply won't allow some frequances to load..

Here's a strange one for people with an M3 " One for you Si '' Try loading
Imparja, when you can only load the frequancy, and not the pids,, Pid's can only be loaded once the frequancy has a lock.. And the frequancy can't lock without the Pids..
Also don't load dream software into a M3, it kills the irdeto UCAS

[siliggy]

Here is a round about method that could work for some boxes(but only some):
The Imparja pids are the same On B1 as they are on C1.
So scan them in on C1 then change the freq and SR after.

[adman]

Good idea siliggy....

I tried & guess what..

Once you change TP details via channel search menu it erases all channels that were on the original freq.

cheers

adman

[siliggy]

Once you change TP details via channel search menu it erases all channels that were on the original freq.
adman
Bugger!
What happens if you only change SR and not freq. Does it still erase them?
Probly does but if not may be able to fool freq with false LNB freq to get same 'IF' result freq.

Might be getin a bit hope full. Is FEC same? For B1 also is 3/4 for C1.